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Re: [Subclipse-users] Latest Subclipse (1.10.13) Unreliable

Author markphip
Full name Mark Phippard
Date 2016-09-08 11:02:41 PDT
Message The main thing is that you have to use SVN 1.8.x JavaHL with that site. So
if your TortoiseSVN is 1.9.x you have to keep them separated on different
working copies.


Mark



On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 1:55 PM, Jamie Jackson <jamiejaxon at gmail dot com> wrote:

> Thanks, Mark. I think I'll go back to the 1.10.x update site for a while
> and see if that is more reliable.
>
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 10:34 AM, Mark Phippard <markphip at gmail dot com> wrote:
>
>> As you know, we have barely modified the product in several years, so it
>> is not like it suddenly changed to become unreliable. The only thing that
>> is changing is the SVN client underneath it, so most likely there are some
>> kind of behavior changes in SVN 1.9.
>>
>> The version from the 1.12.x update site is identical to the one in the
>> 1.10.x update site. One of them just contains SVN 1.8.x client and the
>> other SVN 1.9.x. since you cannot host both versions on one update site.
>>
>> So perhaps there are some code changes needed for SVN 1.9. The API has
>> not changed but maybe its behavior has.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Jamie Jackson <jamiejaxon at gmail dot com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I've been using Subclipse for probably over a decade now, but the
>>> version(s) from the 1.12 updater site have been driving me crazy.
>>>
>>> I'm getting:
>>>
>>>
>>> 1. Hung merges
>>> 2. An issue with failed switches blocking any other SVN operations
>>> from running
>>> <http://subclipse.tig​ris.org/issues/show_​bug.cgi?id=1654>
>>> 3. Queued SVN operations causing hangs (say I revert then switch
>>> without waiting for the revert to complete)
>>> 4. Tree conflicts that a revert won't fix. Subclipse-invoked
>>> cleanups don't help. I have to go to TortoiseSVN to revert.
>>> 5. Long delays in the project reflecting the new URL (in Project
>>> Explorer) after a switch (actually, that last issue goes as far back as I
>>> can remember, though an svn update post-switch seems to refresh it).
>>>
>>>
>>> The first few issues require an Eclipse restart (or often, I have to
>>> kill the Eclipse process from Task Manager). I have to restart (or kill)
>>> Eclipse several times an hour.
>>>
>>> Sometimes I'm forced to give up and use TortoiseSVN, but for most
>>> things, I prefer Subclipse (when it's working well).
>>>
>>> Are others having these problems, too? If so, have you, say, downgraded
>>> your Subclipse? Have you switched to another Eclipse SVN client?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jamie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks
>>
>> Mark Phippard
>> http://markphip.blogspot.com/
>>
>
>


--
Thanks

Mark Phippard
http://markphip.blogspot.com/
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Re: [Subclipse-users] Latest Subclipse (1.10.13) Unreliable

Author jamiejackson
Full name Jamie Jackson
Date 2016-09-08 10:56:00 PDT
Message Thanks, Mark. I think I'll go back to the 1.10.x update site for a while
and see if that is more reliable.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 10:34 AM, Mark Phippard <markphip at gmail dot com> wrote:

> As you know, we have barely modified the product in several years, so it
> is not like it suddenly changed to become unreliable. The only thing that
> is changing is the SVN client underneath it, so most likely there are some
> kind of behavior changes in SVN 1.9.
>
> The version from the 1.12.x update site is identical to the one in the
> 1.10.x update site. One of them just contains SVN 1.8.x client and the
> other SVN 1.9.x. since you cannot host both versions on one update site.
>
> So perhaps there are some code changes needed for SVN 1.9. The API has
> not changed but maybe its behavior has.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Jamie Jackson <jamiejaxon at gmail dot com>
> wrote:
>
>> I've been using Subclipse for probably over a decade now, but the
>> version(s) from the 1.12 updater site have been driving me crazy.
>>
>> I'm getting:
>>
>>
>> 1. Hung merges
>> 2. An issue with failed switches blocking any other SVN operations
>> from running <http://subclipse.tig​ris.org/issues/show_​bug.cgi?id=1654>
>> 3. Queued SVN operations causing hangs (say I revert then switch
>> without waiting for the revert to complete)
>> 4. Tree conflicts that a revert won't fix. Subclipse-invoked cleanups
>> don't help. I have to go to TortoiseSVN to revert.
>> 5. Long delays in the project reflecting the new URL (in Project
>> Explorer) after a switch (actually, that last issue goes as far back as I
>> can remember, though an svn update post-switch seems to refresh it).
>>
>>
>> The first few issues require an Eclipse restart (or often, I have to kill
>> the Eclipse process from Task Manager). I have to restart (or kill) Eclipse
>> several times an hour.
>>
>> Sometimes I'm forced to give up and use TortoiseSVN, but for most things,
>> I prefer Subclipse (when it's working well).
>>
>> Are others having these problems, too? If so, have you, say, downgraded
>> your Subclipse? Have you switched to another Eclipse SVN client?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jamie
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Thanks
>
> Mark Phippard
> http://markphip.blogspot.com/
>
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Re: [Subclipse-users] Latest Subclipse (1.10.13) Unreliable

Author jamiejackson
Full name Jamie Jackson
Date 2016-09-08 10:55:08 PDT
Message Hi Stephen, when will your fix make it to the update site?

On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Stephen Elsemore <selsemore at collab dot net>
wrote:

> Also, fwiw, I fixed the problem that you referenced below (NPE when trying
> to switch to a bad branch) without ever being able to reproduce the problem
> myself.
>
>
>
> *From: *Mark Phippard <markphip at gmail dot com>
> *Reply-To: *users <users@subclipse.​tigris.org>
> *Date: *Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 4:34 PM
> *To: *users <users@subclipse.​tigris.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [Subclipse-users] Latest Subclipse (1.10.13) Unreliable
>
>
>
> As you know, we have barely modified the product in several years, so it
> is not like it suddenly changed to become unreliable. The only thing that
> is changing is the SVN client underneath it, so most likely there are some
> kind of behavior changes in SVN 1.9.
>
>
>
> The version from the 1.12.x update site is identical to the one in the
> 1.10.x update site. One of them just contains SVN 1.8.x client and the
> other SVN 1.9.x. since you cannot host both versions on one update site.
>
>
>
> So perhaps there are some code changes needed for SVN 1.9. The API has
> not changed but maybe its behavior has.
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Jamie Jackson <jamiejaxon at gmail dot com>
> wrote:
>
> I've been using Subclipse for probably over a decade now, but the
> version(s) from the 1.12 updater site have been driving me crazy.
>
>
>
> I'm getting:
>
>
>
> 1. Hung merges
> 2. An issue with failed switches blocking any other SVN operations
> from running <http://subclipse.tig​ris.org/issues/show_​bug.cgi?id=1654>
> 3. Queued SVN operations causing hangs (say I revert then switch
> without waiting for the revert to complete)
> 4. Tree conflicts that a revert won't fix. Subclipse-invoked cleanups
> don't help. I have to go to TortoiseSVN to revert.
> 5. Long delays in the project reflecting the new URL (in Project
> Explorer) after a switch (actually, that last issue goes as far back as I
> can remember, though an svn update post-switch seems to refresh it).
>
>
>
> The first few issues require an Eclipse restart (or often, I have to kill
> the Eclipse process from Task Manager). I have to restart (or kill) Eclipse
> several times an hour.
>
>
>
> Sometimes I'm forced to give up and use TortoiseSVN, but for most things,
> I prefer Subclipse (when it's working well).
>
>
>
> Are others having these problems, too? If so, have you, say, downgraded
> your Subclipse? Have you switched to another Eclipse SVN client?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jamie
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Thanks
>
> Mark Phippard
> http://markphip.blogspot.com/
>
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Re: [Subclipse-users] Latest Subclipse (1.10.13) Unreliable

Author selsemore
Full name Stephen Elsemore
Date 2016-09-08 07:39:18 PDT
Message Also, fwiw, I fixed the problem that you referenced below (NPE when trying to switch to a bad branch) without ever being able to reproduce the problem myself.

From: Mark Phippard <markphip at gmail dot com>
Reply-To: users <users@subclipse.​tigris.org>
Date: Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 4:34 PM
To: users <users@subclipse.​tigris.org>
Subject: Re: [Subclipse-users] Latest Subclipse (1.10.13) Unreliable

As you know, we have barely modified the product in several years, so it is not like it suddenly changed to become unreliable. The only thing that is changing is the SVN client underneath it, so most likely there are some kind of behavior changes in SVN 1.9.

The version from the 1.12.x update site is identical to the one in the 1.10.x update site. One of them just contains SVN 1.8.x client and the other SVN 1.9.x. since you cannot host both versions on one update site.

So perhaps there are some code changes needed for SVN 1.9. The API has not changed but maybe its behavior has.

Mark



On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Jamie Jackson <jamiejaxon@gmail​.com<mailto:jamie​jaxon at gmail dot com>​> wrote:
I've been using Subclipse for probably over a decade now, but the version(s) from the 1.12 updater site have been driving me crazy.

I'm getting:


  1. Hung merges
  2. An issue with failed switches blocking any other SVN operations from running<http://subclipse.tig​ris.org/issues/show_​bug.cgi?id=1654>
  3. Queued SVN operations causing hangs (say I revert then switch without waiting for the revert to complete)
  4. Tree conflicts that a revert won't fix. Subclipse-invoked cleanups don't help. I have to go to TortoiseSVN to revert.
  5. Long delays in the project reflecting the new URL (in Project Explorer) after a switch (actually, that last issue goes as far back as I can remember, though an svn update post-switch seems to refresh it).

The first few issues require an Eclipse restart (or often, I have to kill the Eclipse process from Task Manager). I have to restart (or kill) Eclipse several times an hour.

Sometimes I'm forced to give up and use TortoiseSVN, but for most things, I prefer Subclipse (when it's working well).

Are others having these problems, too? If so, have you, say, downgraded your Subclipse? Have you switched to another Eclipse SVN client?

Thanks,
Jamie





--
Thanks

Mark Phippard
http://markphip.blogspot.com/
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Re: [Subclipse-users] Latest Subclipse (1.10.13) Unreliable

Author markphip
Full name Mark Phippard
Date 2016-09-08 07:35:01 PDT
Message As you know, we have barely modified the product in several years, so it is
not like it suddenly changed to become unreliable. The only thing that is
changing is the SVN client underneath it, so most likely there are some
kind of behavior changes in SVN 1.9.

The version from the 1.12.x update site is identical to the one in the
1.10.x update site. One of them just contains SVN 1.8.x client and the
other SVN 1.9.x. since you cannot host both versions on one update site.

So perhaps there are some code changes needed for SVN 1.9. The API has not
changed but maybe its behavior has.

Mark



On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Jamie Jackson <jamiejaxon at gmail dot com> wrote:

> I've been using Subclipse for probably over a decade now, but the
> version(s) from the 1.12 updater site have been driving me crazy.
>
> I'm getting:
>
>
> 1. Hung merges
> 2. An issue with failed switches blocking any other SVN operations
> from running <http://subclipse.tig​ris.org/issues/show_​bug.cgi?id=1654>
> 3. Queued SVN operations causing hangs (say I revert then switch
> without waiting for the revert to complete)
> 4. Tree conflicts that a revert won't fix. Subclipse-invoked cleanups
> don't help. I have to go to TortoiseSVN to revert.
> 5. Long delays in the project reflecting the new URL (in Project
> Explorer) after a switch (actually, that last issue goes as far back as I
> can remember, though an svn update post-switch seems to refresh it).
>
>
> The first few issues require an Eclipse restart (or often, I have to kill
> the Eclipse process from Task Manager). I have to restart (or kill) Eclipse
> several times an hour.
>
> Sometimes I'm forced to give up and use TortoiseSVN, but for most things,
> I prefer Subclipse (when it's working well).
>
> Are others having these problems, too? If so, have you, say, downgraded
> your Subclipse? Have you switched to another Eclipse SVN client?
>
> Thanks,
> Jamie
>
>
>


--
Thanks

Mark Phippard
http://markphip.blogspot.com/
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[Subclipse-users] Latest Subclipse (1.10.13) Unreliable

Author jamiejackson
Full name Jamie Jackson
Date 2016-09-08 07:26:01 PDT
Message I've been using Subclipse for probably over a decade now, but the
version(s) from the 1.12 updater site have been driving me crazy.

I'm getting:


   1. Hung merges
   2. An issue with failed switches blocking any other SVN operations from
   running <http://subclipse.tig​ris.org/issues/show_​bug.cgi?id=1654>
   3. Queued SVN operations causing hangs (say I revert then switch without
   waiting for the revert to complete)
   4. Tree conflicts that a revert won't fix. Subclipse-invoked cleanups
   don't help. I have to go to TortoiseSVN to revert.
   5. Long delays in the project reflecting the new URL (in Project
   Explorer) after a switch (actually, that last issue goes as far back as I
   can remember, though an svn update post-switch seems to refresh it).


The first few issues require an Eclipse restart (or often, I have to kill
the Eclipse process from Task Manager). I have to restart (or kill) Eclipse
several times an hour.

Sometimes I'm forced to give up and use TortoiseSVN, but for most things, I
prefer Subclipse (when it's working well).

Are others having these problems, too? If so, have you, say, downgraded
your Subclipse? Have you switched to another Eclipse SVN client?

Thanks,
Jamie
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